A three-session study on religious liberty, the three God-given spheres, wise civic
engagement — and the church's most neglected calling.
Based on:Live Free with Josh Howerton (bonus episode)Hosts: Josh Howerton · Paul Cunningham · Carlos ErazoRuntime: ~71 min
An independent study & discussion guide, prepared as a free resource for small groups. It
summarizes and organizes the ideas discussed on the podcast episode above; it is not official
material of, nor endorsed by, Lakepointe Church or the Live Free podcast, and the spoken
content and original ideas belong to the hosts. The historical, legal, and theological claims are the
hosts'; Scripture is gathered so you can examine everything yourself — which is the whole point
of this collection (Acts 17:11).
A mosque expansion in McKinney, Texas turned a city-council meeting into national news,
and left a lot of Christians asking a genuinely hard question: should we try, legally, to stop it?
The easy answers come from both sides — "of course not, we're religious-liberty people" and "of course
we should, it's false worship." This episode refuses both easy answers and sits in the tension. The
hosts are candid that they're still working it out — so read it that way, with an open Bible, and land
where the text and a clear conscience take you.
Session One
The Question & the Two Ditches
Evangelism and the Common Good
▶ approx. 0:00 – 12:00 · 36:00 – 51:00
Before any policy question, the episode names a discipleship problem: Christians tend to collapse into
one of two ditches. The way out is learning to think in categories — or as the hosts put it,
"sphere sovereignty."
Key points
Start with posture. Some Christians at that meeting "did not conduct themselves like
disciples of Jesus." Whatever your convictions, Scripture is not optional here: "correct opponents
with gentleness and respect" (2 Timothy 2:24–25), as people "of power and love and self-control."
A right cause pursued in a hard, angry spirit still isn't Team Jesus.
Three God-given spheres. God established three institutions, each with its own lane: the
family, the church, and the state. When each stays in its lane, society
flourishes. The church's primary job is the Great Commission — share Christ, love people,
send missionaries (Matthew 28:18–20). The state's job (Romans 13:1–4) is to reward good and
restrain evil — with God, not us, defining good and evil.
Ditch #1 — "only evangelism." Some Christians think the church's only concern is
evangelism, and they despise anyone worried about culture. But maturity means also asking, wisely,
"what is the role of the state?" (Paul: stop thinking like children — 1 Corinthians 14:20.)
Ditch #2 — "only politics." Others think only about immigration, the First Amendment, and
Islamification — and "never develop the heart of Jesus Christ for the salvation of Muslim people.
They become crusty, angry, hard." That's just as broken.
The both/and. "I can both ask how do I slow the Islamification of my society, and
try to make disciples of Muslims. It's not either/or — it can't be." Consider Paul in Athens: his
spirit was "provoked" — literally angered — by a city full of idols (Acts 17:16). His response?
He reasoned in the synagogue and the marketplace and preached Christ. Anger's right flinch is the
gospel.
Open your Bible
2 Timothy 2:24–26
Romans 13:1–4
Matthew 28:18–20
Acts 17:16–34
1 Corinthians 10:19–21
Ephesians 6:12
Discussion
Be honest — which ditch do you lean toward: "only evangelism" or "only politics"? What does the
other lane have to teach you?
Paul was angry at the idols of Athens, yet his response was to preach. How do you hold a
real conviction and a gentle, gospel posture at the same time?
The church and the state have different jobs. Where have you seen Christians confuse the two — in
either direction?
Session Two
Wise as Serpents
The Legal & Civic Question
▶ approx. 10:00 – 35:00 · 43:00 – 68:00
Here the episode gets into the weeds — American history, the First Amendment, and how a Christian
might act with integrity. Weigh the historical and legal claims for yourself; the principle the
hosts keep returning to is Jesus': "wise as serpents and innocent as doves" (Matthew 10:16).
Key points
"What's legal" isn't the only question. Slavery and abortion were once legal; Christians
rightly opposed them. As Dr. King wrote from the Birmingham jail, a human law is just only insofar
as it squares with the law of God. So Christians ask two questions: what is legal, and what
is right?
A history worth checking (the hosts' claims). They argue the First Amendment was not
originally read as "treat all religions equally" — pointing to state churches in most of the original
colonies, Sabbath and blasphemy laws, and older court language — and that a 1947 Supreme Court case
(Everson v. Board of Education) reinterpreted it and applied it to states and cities. This
is contested history; don't take their word or anyone's — go read it.
Where Josh lands. A Christian can in good conscience legally oppose a mosque —
but only on legitimate, honest grounds (zoning, traffic, drainage, parking). What you cannot
do is ask a council to refuse it because it is a mosque — that's unlawful now, and you'll
just "lose in a blaze of glory" (as happened in Broken Arrow, OK, which drew a federal
investigation). Integrity matters: only file on grounds you can honestly stand behind.
Play fair, because they can play back. Paul Cunningham's honest checks: Would I oppose a
Jehovah's Witness hall's zoning too? If not, is my rule consistent? And: secular cities already
use "zoning issues" to block church plants — "if we're going to play that game, we've got to know
they may play it back with us." Keep the both/and; keep the tension.
Salt of the earth, not salt of the church. Jesus sent disciples to be salt and light in the
world, not to keep it in the shaker (Matthew 5:13–16). Where the early church "couldn't"
shape policy (120 believers in an empire), later Christians could — and today every citizen carries
real civic influence through the vote. How you vote is part of how you follow Jesus. The most durable
work is often local: school boards and city councils, not just national elections.
Open your Bible
Matthew 10:16
Matthew 5:13–16
Romans 13:1–7
Jeremiah 29:4–7
1 Peter 2:11–17
Daniel 1–2(faithful in a pagan government)
Discussion
Josh says a Christian may oppose a project on honest land-use grounds, but not "because it's a
mosque." Where's the line between wise and dishonest here — and does "wise as serpents,
innocent as doves" help you draw it?
Test the consistency: apply your rule to a religion you find less alarming. Does it still hold?
What does that reveal?
Jeremiah told the exiles to "seek the welfare of the city" they'd been carried into (Jer 29:7).
As "sojourners and exiles" (1 Pet 2:11), what does seeking your city's welfare — not just its
protection — look like this year?
Session Three
The Part Everyone Skips
The Bigger Problem Is Us
▶ approx. 66:00 – 71:00
Whatever you conclude about zoning and law, the hosts end on the note they say matters most — and it
turns the spotlight around.
Key points
Love the people, not just the debate. The first item on Josh's own list of "what a Christian
should do" is to share Christ with Muslims — "you worshiping a demon, I want you to worship Jesus…
I want to see you in heaven forever." The concern about a false religion never gets to erase Christ's
heart for the person in it.
A convert's gut-punch. Shariq Khan, who came to Christ out of Islam, works in McKinney and
gave the episode its closing word: "The biggest problem isn't that Muslims and Hindus are moving
here. It's that the church is largely absent… we've outsourced our evangelism to a single morning
where we storm a meeting and get loud for five hours. Where were the other 364 days?"
The verdict on the whole conversation. A church that only shows up for the political fight —
and never for the neighbor — has misread its own assignment. The mosque is not the church's biggest
problem; the church's absence is.
Don't just study this — do it. Josh closes on James: "do not merely be hearers of the word,
and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says" (James 1:22). This guide, and this whole question, fails
if it ends in an argument instead of a changed life.
Open your Bible
James 1:22–25
Matthew 22:37–40
Luke 10:25–37(who is my neighbor?)
1 Corinthians 9:19–23
Colossians 4:5–6
Discussion
"Where were the other 364 days?" Answer it honestly for your own life. When was the last time you
knew, prayed for, or served a Muslim (or any) neighbor by name?
Is it possible to be right about the cultural stakes and wrong about the person in
front of you? How do you keep both a clear mind and a soft heart?
What would change if your street felt the church's presence — meals, friendship, the
gospel — as much as any council meeting felt its protest?
Live it out — one step this week
Learn one name. Meet, greet, or pray for one neighbor of another faith — as a person Jesus
died for, not a statistic.
Get educated, not agitated. If a civic question like this is live where you are, read the
actual law and history yourself before you speak — and speak "with gentleness and respect."
Show up on an ordinary day. Do one small act of gospel presence this week that has nothing
to do with a controversy — the other 364 days start now.
“But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.”James 1:22